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Leonie2 · Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 3:09 pm Post subject: Woodstoves

I want to get a woodstove installed in our conservatory. I've contacted a local firm, does anyone have any advice to offer, are some better than others, is there anything I should look out for, etc?

Haize · 3 Star Club Joined: 16 Jun 2006 Posts: 1126

Hohum, we are in the process of trying to get ours sorted out.

Remember if you have a recess to put the stove into, make sure the stove you choose is narrower than the space, as otherwise, you limit the heat it can put out into the room.

If you want to be able to use a kettle on the top / cook on it properly (rather than prewarming and finishing off on a cooker), your choices will be narrowed quite a bit, as only a few manufacturers give you a blanking plate that is suitable. If this is not needed though, you have the freedom to make use of a top mounted flue (instead of it being out of the back), so the stove can take up less space.

I've been advised it is definately worth looking for one with "airwash" or "cleanburn" technology (I'm sure there are other names for it too), by which they mean air is directed from the top of the stove downwards across the glazed door, which makes it need cleaning a lot less often, amongst other things!

If you are likely to burn coals some times and wood others, you will need a stove with a variable grate: for coal, air needs to be able to come up from beneath for most efficient burning; for wood, the grate needs to be able to catch a solid ash bed.

From building regs, we found out last night that the minimum diameter of a chimney liner for use with wood and other solid fuels is 6". Which is interesting, given that the stove we had chosen only has a 4" outlet, and adaptors only go up in increments of 1".

From the prices our local firm has been telling us, I have noticed that they are not at all competitive with the cost of the stove itself, and chimney liners etc.. As you are also paying them for installation, I'm not too happy about this, so we are hoping to get the relevant bits from online shops, and install ourselves. A happy medium might be to buy the bits online then have someone in to install it, but then your "local firm" might be more usefull than ours!

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Leonie2 · Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 3:36 pm Post subject:

Thanks Haize, I missed your post for some reason. I've been looking at the clean burn thingy, sounds good. So far the quote for a small stove and installation is just over £2k! ouch, I didn't think it would be that much. I'm phoning around to get some other prices to see if we can bring it down a tad bit more. We don't have a chimney at all so there is quite a bit of labour and materials needed for the job.

Cabbagepatch · Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 3:49 pm Post subject:

The clean burn stoves are good. Ours was a bit cheaper than that leonie, but it was just a case of dropping a new flue liner down the existing chimney and installing the stove. There was also scaffolding to pay for, plastering (still not done), a new hearth etc. Its surprising how all the extras add up.

But, we've hardly used the central heating at all and with a free supply of wood for the winter, the gas bill should be a lot smaller Wink

n · Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 4:16 pm Post subject:

It's not the stove which costs the money, it's the extras, the plastering and stovepipe etc. Our stove pipe goes through two storeys and we had to use it to create a chimney as we didn't have one. The stove was about 900 pounds and the whole bill was 4000! And you have to have planning permission too so there are plans and building warrants etc, and vents in the walls etc etc. When we did ours it was part of a major renovation. I don't know if I'd put one in a conservatory.... wouldn't the glass get really hot?

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Cabbagepatch · Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 4:20 pm Post subject:

Certainly the fireplace wall above the stove gets almost too hot too touch and even upstairs, the wall adjacent to the chimney is warm.

Leonie2 · Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 6:29 pm Post subject:

I asked about the conservatory, they do it all the time and the pipe they put through the roof is bigger, twin walled etc. (he waffled on about stuff that went way over my head!) but the jist of it is that yes, we can put one through the conservatory roof. They won't put it through a glass roof, but ours is that plastic stuff so it's okay provided they do it properly. The wall it will be against in the original external wall of the house so heat etc should all be okay, and provided the chimney/pipe thingy doesn't go above the height of our roof (apex) then we don't need planning permission...that said he'd need to check the job first to make sure but that is based on what I described to him over the phone.

Haize · 3 Star Club Joined: 16 Jun 2006 Posts: 1126

Our quote finally came through today, and it is £1600, of which £680 is the stove.

So, we're definately going to be doing it ourselves!

We can get all the materials for less than £1000, and won't be bothering with scaffolding (I'll be climbing a ladder to the ridge tiles, and hotching along on my bum till I get to the chimney Shocked

At which point, I can attach myself to the chimney, so I'll be fine then: I've a proper climbing harness and so on).

Looks like we'll be having the render done for us though, as I can't cope with all of the plastering work we have left to do, given the time we have to do it in Sad

By the way, Leonie, were you wanting to have a brick (or rendered) actual chimney put in, or are you wanting a visible shiny metal tube type thing?
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