Nationalism

lloyd · Nationalism

Just read this and thought it fitted quite well with my views so thought I'd share it.

Excerpts from an on going debate in Australia . This is true and can be checked at
http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/australia.asp
Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to Australia and her Queen at a special meeting with Prime Minister John Howard, he and his Ministers made it clear that extremists would face a crackdown. Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard, hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if they did not accept that Australia was a secular state, and its laws were made by parliament. "If those are not your values, if you want a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you", he said on National Television.
"I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws governing people in Australia : one the Australian law and another Islamic law that is false. If you can't agree with parliamentary law, independent courts, democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have the opportunity to go to another country, which practices it, perhaps, then, that's a better option", Costello said.
Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked to move to the other country. Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that Muslims who did not want to accept local values should "clear off. Basically people who don't want to be Australians, and who don't want, to live by Australian values and understand them, well then, they can basically clear off", he said.

Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques.
Quote: "IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Tak e It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians."
"However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the 'politically correct' crowd began complaining about the possibility that our patriotism was offending others. I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to Australia ." "However, there are a few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to un derstand." "This idea of Australia being a multi-cultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. And as Australians, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle."
"This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom"
"We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society ... Learn the language!"
"Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture."
"We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us."
"If the Southern Cross offends you, or you don't like "A Fair Go", then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet. We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don't care how you did things where you came from. By all means, keep your culture, but do not force it on others.
"This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom,
'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'."
"If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted."
Maybe if we circulate this amongst ourselves, American and the English citizens will find the backbone to start speaking the same truths!

Ratman

Too Late now Lloyd
we will pay for our own stupidity in the not too distant future.
Good on the Aussies.
My wife is a school teacher. At xmas all the muslim parents etc come in and make it clear that their children must not attend or be involved in any xmas assemblies or plays as it is not their religion or belief. You should see how they kick of though if the school does not offer their kids a xmas present !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Becki

thats rather hypocritical then Shocked

stickywellies

The whole Islam issue will get worse I fear, with the Gaza Strip being taken by Hamas, I can't see the Israel standing for it.

Daisy Bell

Good on the ozzies.I wish are goverment would do something like that.
If you saw the paper yeasterday there was a fish and chip shop with a huge poster saying that there is a mass rally today outside no10 for all muslims against the british oppression.

I am sick of these people coming over here and crippling what we have here.if they want to come over here then they should do it off there own back not come here as free loaders Twisted Evil

lloyd

I justlike the Ozzie spirit, "If you like it here you are welcome, but if you wish to retain your own qualities rules and so on in addition to ours, if it leads to conflict then please do it elsewhere not here."

We have created a monster here.

Somerset Lad

We too should have done something similar. Wink

lloyd

No good now though, closing the gate after the horse has bolted. Now we have to pick up the pieces.

kaz

It should make a difference when we take the sensible step of a points system to limit the amount and quality of people and trades coming in.
Australia has always used that system.

Daisy Bell

Australia has always used that system.
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its proved to be a very good system.It was reported in the papers that some our coming over here to use are health system something which we have payed for.I find that disgusting.

Leonie2

Howard deserves a medal for saying all that, well done to him!

agapanthus

lloyd

Hm...Not generalising at all then?...Stick them all in one box? Shocked

Becki