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Orange and Lemon Oil (Lottie)LottieEvergreen Joined: 16 Feb 2006 Posts: 740 Posted: 31 May 2006 07:01 pm Post subject: Orange and Lemon Oil -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Does anyone know if pure orange and lemon oil is the same as essential orange and lemon oil please? Ditto Eucalyptus. I don't know if I have to order essential oil or will pure oil do the job. Turned out my oatmeal soap - which I used oatbran as that was all I had, and it has turned out really well. I can't get into photobucket to download a photo as it I can't remember my password and it doesn't like me username. Doh. But you can see the photos on my www below. _________________ I am at that purple age! Back to top Jesse Site Admin Joined: 02 Feb 2006 Posts: 2188 Location: West Sussex Posted: 31 May 2006 07:26 pm Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ooooh, I'm not sure Lottie, I thought it's the same thing but I'm not certain. Someone else might know better. Back to top Haize Perennial Joined: 13 Apr 2006 Posts: 389 Posted: 31 May 2006 08:25 pm Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It *might* be the same, but it is not *definately* the same, if you see what I mean. "Essential oil" is a very specific term, meaning the pure pressed product. However, not all things can be used to produce essential oil, and some other methods produce more from things. Vanilla, for instance. For vanilla, a solvent such as alcohol is usually used to get the oils out, and is then removed (at least as much as possible). So this could be the meaning of "pure" oil in this context - something was needed for extraction, therefore it is not an essential oil. Of course, I'm writing this like I know what I'm talking about... Which may or may not be true! Do you have more details, such as any branding? Because sometimes people just use the term to mean the same thing anyway. _________________ Status of our house: No heating, no bathroom, no kitchen. Washing machine, fridge, and boiler sitting around in boxes. No door on room with toilet! http://www.manicfish.com/myblog.php?bbn=haize Back to top Haize Perennial Joined: 13 Apr 2006 Posts: 389 Posted: 31 May 2006 08:29 pm Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Actually, to clarify, the "essential oil" is what is extracted when solvents are used, but other things also come out, so it can't be said to be "pure essential oil". In the case of lemon and orange, I think it'll be the same as essential. _________________ Status of our house: No heating, no bathroom, no kitchen. Washing machine, fridge, and boiler sitting around in boxes. No door on room with toilet! http://www.manicfish.com/myblog.php?bbn=haize Back to top Jesse Site Admin Joined: 02 Feb 2006 Posts: 2188 Location: West Sussex Posted: 31 May 2006 09:37 pm Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lottie your soaps look wonderful, I love the way you've scored the surface to give it the cadbury flake appearance Back to top Lottie Evergreen Joined: 16 Feb 2006 Posts: 740 Posted: 31 May 2006 09:40 pm Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks Haize. Mine came from Lakeland, and I have had them about 6 months so not out of date. You get quite a big bottle and it says pure lemon and the other is pure orange (oil). It is for use in cooking - as is their vanilla extract but that is different and not oil. I used it to make my St Clements and apart from the soap being a bit soft when I cut it after 24 hours, it has cured all right. I read on the Melissa Coss book that she cuts her soaps after she has cured them - so perhaps that is what I should do in future. I am still hunting for a soap on a rope mould if anyone comes across one when they are looking for other 'soapy' stuff. The only place I could find one was on a US site. _________________ I am at that purple age! Back to top Haize Perennial Joined: 13 Apr 2006 Posts: 389 Posted: 01 Jun 2006 06:24 am Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Why would you want to cut the soap when it has completely hardened? I'd have thought the slight softness would make it easier and neater. Having never made soap, I am in no position to know! Soap on a rope mould? _________________ Status of our house: No heating, no bathroom, no kitchen. Washing machine, fridge, and boiler sitting around in boxes. No door on room with toilet! http://www.manicfish.com/myblog.php?bbn=haize Back to top Jesse Site Admin Joined: 02 Feb 2006 Posts: 2188 Location: West Sussex Posted: 01 Jun 2006 08:19 am Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lottie I've just cut some of the soap I made nearly 2 months ago, it's the soap kitchen recipe one that I fragranced with sweet orange. It was easy to cut with a sharp kitchen knife and has the consistency of a hard cheddar cheese. In fact I found it easier to cut now than I did when first turning out of the mould, it was too soft at that time. But I think this all depends on the recipe because I've made the MC baby soap in the past and 24 hours after reaching trace it was very difficult to cut, 6 weeks later it would have been impossible. The only difference I can think that causes the change in consistency is that the MC recipe used beeswax and the soap kitchen recipe doesn't. So my guess would be that a soap using beeswax would be a lot harder to cut later on, but that's just a guess, it could otherwise be something to do with the amount of water used in the recipe. Back to top Lottie Evergreen Joined: 16 Feb 2006 Posts: 740 Posted: 01 Jun 2006 08:28 am Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ah right. Everybody seems to cut their soap after 24-48 hours so MC confused me - so and another book I have that uses mainly soap pellets. I used beeswax in mine - so that was the reason. Does anyone have any experience of soap made with lard and soap made with oils etc. I am still on a mission to make this soap on a rope and want a recipe that is bubbly soap but does not go all soggy in the shower. Really must go and check on my loaf - back soon _________________ I am at that purple age! Back to top Jesse Site Admin Joined: 02 Feb 2006 Posts: 2188 Location: West Sussex Posted: 01 Jun 2006 08:32 am Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lottie the baby soap in MC book is quite a hard one, if you use white beeswax pellets you'll get a white bar which is what I think of for soap on a rope. It gives nice big bubbles too and you can add whatever fragrance you want. Haven't seen any soap on a rope moulds but will keep looking out for you. Back to top alison Moderator Joined: 17 Feb 2006 Posts: 303 Location: North Devon Posted: 01 Jun 2006 08:05 pm Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I make soap with lard, what do you want to know? Back to top Lottie Evergreen Joined: 16 Feb 2006 Posts: 740 Posted: 01 Jun 2006 08:39 pm Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Alison I just wanted to know if it goes soggy if you keep it in the shower cubicle for using in the shower. Almost everyone I know showers and do not bathe - hence the need for a soap with a nice lather, that is not too soft. So lard versus oils - just curious if you have found a difference. _________________ I am at that purple age! Back to top alison Moderator Joined: 17 Feb 2006 Posts: 303 Location: North Devon Posted: 02 Jun 2006 06:37 pm Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I found the lard soap quite soft. Although it gives lovely small bubbles, it does melt if left in water, like the children would do when having a bath. Back to top Lottie Evergreen Joined: 16 Feb 2006 Posts: 740 Posted: 04 Jun 2006 10:14 pm Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Just got back - thanks Alison - no good for soap on a rope then I think that idea is heading for the bin now! Back to the drawing board! _________________ I am at that purple age! Back to top |