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lloyd
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PC Internet tekkie questionOkay so I just uninstalled Norton antivirus which was a fre trial on the new pc, and uploaded Mcaffee which I am subscribed to. ...............Result?....Pc is now chronically slow, but only on email. Everything else is fast.
Any ideas anyone?......I'm thinking cookie rejection my be a prob............
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lottie
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It usually is - and it was when my son installed Norton and took off the other one!
I only know this as my machine was slow and he told me what the prob was
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Leonie2
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I've used both norton and mcafee and they're both painfully slow on my computer.
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lloyd
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Lottie, do you think I should allow cookies?....If so, where do I go to enable this, please?
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Cabbagepatch
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The biscuit tin?
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lottie
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The rutty man is the expert and could probably explain it easily Lloyd.
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Kathy
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I've used this for years, its not a resource hogger and I've never picked up anything "nasty" with it.......plus it's free.
http://www.free-av.com/
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lloyd
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Trouble is, I'm paying for Mcaffee. Used it for years with no problems till now, so I think its more to do with software conflicts, or the way my system is set up. I think I need to enable cookies but can't remember how.
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Kathy
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In Internet Explorer, Go to TOOLS, OPTIONS, Then the PRIVACY tab, then ADVANCED. You'll get the cookie options there.
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lloyd
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Thanks, I'll try that.
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mrutty
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Mc if a huge suite of software where where as Norton is a pile of poo. Have you enabled Mc to scan on inbound and outbound email?
What are you using for email? Outlook or Outlook Express?
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lloyd
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Good point. Will check that. Using Internet Explorer.
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lloyd
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Outlook Express.
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mrutty
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You did uninstall and then reboot didn't you??
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lloyd
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Yes, and had used Symantec's Norton Removal Tool to. Will do system restore I think, and then having got it back up to speed, look for a new plan.
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Haize
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Tee hee, use Firefox and Thunderbird instead
That'd be me, sidestepping the issue!
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mrutty
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Firefox, no don't do it. This year they had more patches than IE and took much longer to fix them (if you don't belive me check with Gartner).
Thunderbird or full Outlook would help as they are real mail clients with proper software hooks for vendors to use.
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Haize
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Hmm, I could never go back to IE now, not being so used to some of the great features of Firefox. Tabbed browsing, for instance... So useful!
Also, IE gets patches mostly to fix security issues, whereas Firefox, being open source and continually under improvement, gets non-essential patches pretty often, but you don't have to install them all the time, they are often not critical to security.
The one thing I've never had much fun with for Firefox was major updates, e.g. from V0.8 to V1.0, so I always just uninstall then put the new one on.
I looked at the "Gartner" website, couldn't see what you were referring to (I don't know the site), their documents are mostly pay for too?
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Kathy
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I'm a Firefox fan myself, never had any problems at all, Internet Explorer was a nightmare for me, but everyone's setup is different I suppose, what works well for one might not for another, just glad to have a choice.
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lloyd
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All a forign language to me. Can we talk about things that go "BANG" instead, please?
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Kathy
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mrutty
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| Haize wrote: | Hmm, I could never go back to IE now, not being so used to some of the great features of Firefox. Tabbed browsing, for instance... So useful!
Also, IE gets patches mostly to fix security issues, whereas Firefox, being open source and continually under improvement, gets non-essential patches pretty often, but you don't have to install them all the time, they are often not critical to security. |
Nope loads of security patches dressed as 'improvements'
| Haize wrote: | | I looked at the "Gartner" website, couldn't see what you were referring to (I don't know the site), their documents are mostly pay for too? |
Just checked and yes it's a pay one. Basically Firefox then Apple then IE then Opera for patching so no change over the last three years.
Firefox is getting slated by most security pros at the moment as is Open Office and the like as they refuse to acknowledge the security holes and then dress them up as 'improvements'. When MS did the same they were slated. Seems Open Source don't want to play in the real world, losing a lot of ground in the commercial space (we're now swapping MS back into sites).
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mrutty
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| lloyd wrote: | All a forign language to me. Can we talk about things that go "BANG" instead, please?  |
With you there is always the risk of IT equipment going bang
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lloyd
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Things tend to go "Bang" when I'm about
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Haize
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Woo, looking forward to 3rd Nov (fireworks, lots of bangs at our local park)
I've never liked Open Office, actually. It is a bit of a letdown.
Sorry, won't be reading that document then, I'm far too studenty to pay for things
Obviously, at the end of the day, software choice is down to your requirements. Logically, it would be great if all home users and non-security critical things could rely on the free open source software, and only businesses have to be so concerned as to buy software to do the same jobs more securely, and do things a home user would never require.
Hiding security patches as "improvements" is never tolerable
But on the other hand, the odd hole in security is rather more tolerable in free software than in pay for stuff
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lloyd
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Haize
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