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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If we had public transport around here, I'd be delighted, but as it is we'd have to walk 3 miles to the nearest bus stop and the buses are very infrequent.  The Govt. can't expect people to walk everywhere - you have to set up a decent system of public transport - it is vital in rural areas (as are POST OFFICES) but don't get me started on that!

It would make sense to use railways for transporting goods instead of always hauliers on roads too.  

I hate to think of the set ups behind the scenes which we aren't privy to.  I am currently reading Barbara Kingsolver's Animal, Vegetable, Miracle which is about living a simpler life, being self-reliant, buying local produce and supporting local farmers and small companies (something I try to do more and more of).  What she writes about Monsanto is scary.

As for our surplus gas being sold abroad in summer because we lack the storage capacity, and then we are over a barrel come winter, when it is sold back to us at some incredible rate of inflation.  Perhaps I'm dumb, but is there any reason why we can't increase our storage capacity? Or is that too simplistic?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've read a fair bit about Monsanto over the years, very scary what they get away with. Behind the scenes the people in power have big shares in this company so pretty much anything gets through the red tape. Aspartame is a good example of this, it's a poison, but a change in the US administration and the sacking of the guy who stopped FDA approval and it's now in 90% of soft drinks and many other foods.

A simpler way of life would suit me fine. Most of the dried goods I buy for the house are imported but I'd soon adjust to eating what could be grown locally plus, I'm sure we'd all be much healthier.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I definitely think the lack of use of renewable energy is down to the share holders in the oil companies putting a stop to it. In fact I'm pretty certain that the committees looking into renewable energy in the US have the CEOs of Shell, etc on them. No wonder nothing is happening!

But I'm going to be good today and put my money where my mouth is and switch us to renewable electricity and carbon offset gas. i've been putting it off as I worry that it'll be a lot more expensive, but I've just looked at the prices and it's not that much more.

We try to do our best. i know a lot of people don't bother at all (so many people don't even recycle!) our neighbour's security light was on all day at the weekend. grrr. Even if they don't care about the planet, surely they must worry about their electricity bill.

This beautiful planet is not here to be pillaged and plundered. Where are we going to live when it's all gone?

I was reading Monty's Around the world in 80 gardens book the other night - when he went to Cuba (missed that episode). It's fanscinating there. When the Soviet union collapsed, they were left with no fuel, food or money. So they set up a wonderful system of growing food on all available land within the cities. It's all grown organically (no oil to make fertilisers etc) and sold locally. now 90% of the food sold in Havana is grown within the city and sold within minutes of being picked. I bet no other capital city on the planet does that. (although of course they have many other problems!) Sounds like the way forward to me.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That sounds good to me Aqui, the land and resources we do have in Britain are so mismanaged it beggars belief.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So what's going on with "peak oil" since last year then, not very much in the news. Anybody have any inside stories?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it,s not about the world we live in it,s all about profit and things people need
luxury items dont carry huge levies it,s all about what we use on a day to day basis .
Mark my words you watch the price of LPG increase as more and more vehicles get converted
Deisel was the eco fuel a few years ago and as more and more people used deisel engined cars as the technology improved the deisel prices came closer and closer to petroleum
It,s not a green issue its just an excuse to hike prices people dont really use their transport any less when the prices increase they just grin and bear it
Its a  sad situation really compare it to cigarettes and alcohol i remember hearing the phrase "when fags hit a pound a packet i,m giving up"but few people did
Its all down to corperate and governmental greed
There is always an excuse for high prices if you are concerned about the environment you would reduce your energy consumption regardless of price dont you think.
They dont want us to use our cars so much OK lets hike fuel prices oooohh drinkin and smoking is bad for you lets hike the prices and who does it actually effect not the people involved in supplying such things i can assure you
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